in a second obama administration. he is very much looking forward to this. >> you have been pressing the romney campaign for specifics, today we got one specifics suggesting maybe there would be a cap on deductions at $17,000 for mortgage interest deductions, charitable contributions, that's a pretty specific number, what do you think about that? >> i think that the net result is still the same. that is specific, but he has not told us how he will do that without raising taxes on the middle class. even if you're capping deductions, separating them into different buckets with different caps on them. you're still raising taxes on the middle class. even his own economists that he relies on says you can't cut taxes by $5 trillion out paying for it by cutting deductions for people making $200,000 and less. that's just a fact. you can't do it. even if you close every single deduction for people making over $200,000, or $250,000 for families, you're still a trillion short. so he has to tell us how he will do this without increasing taxes on the middle class. so far the math does not add up.